You need to fight your way out of things that aren't going your way. That is football. I have been in it many times as a player and now as a coach, and the only way to get out of it is to work hard.
We are sitting in the stands at Goodison Park and the boss of the team is in a determined mood.
Despite being frustrated by the decisions which went against his side across Stanley Park last weekend, Lampard is confident that the team will turn their situation around before the end of the season.
He knows that only hard work will get them to where they want to be on the final day.
He wants that mentality to be a hallmark of the teams he manages.
After this lunchtime's training session at the stadium - held in front of club sponsors and partners - Lampard was soon back out on the pitch on his own.
He says that when times are difficult, it is important to remain positive and have a belief in what you can do. We need to keep working.
Things are not going to get any easier for the team. They will host Chelsea on Sunday.
The game holds extra significance for Frank because he achieved so much as a player and as a manager. He was sacked in January 2021, after delivering a top-four finish and FA Cup final in his first season.
He smiles and says that he doesn't know if familiarity will be an advantage. I will only be able to say that after the game if it works in practice.
The development of two of the most important players in the club, Reece James and Mason Mount, have been aided by the help of Frank Lampard. He handed both of them their senior debuts and they went on to become key figures at the club.
The top scorer and assist-maker in the league this season is Mount, and Thomas Tuchel was pondering what might have been had James not been injured.
The pair are achieving something that is obvious.
He says that they are really talented boys and that they have great attitudes.
I have a close relationship with both of those guys, Tammy and Billy, as well as the other two, Fikayo andmori, and they were a pleasure to work with.
I wish them well in their careers and I have absolute confidence that they will do great because of the way they are. They have great talent and desire to be top players, but they are already there.
There is another young player in the squad. Anthony Gordon's future was uncertain during the days of Carlo Ancelotti and he spent time at Preston in the Championship. He started 11 of the 12 games that he was in charge of and showed the bite and drive that the fans were looking for.
When asked about how local lad Gordon has risen to the challenge, Lampard says he has been really impressed. His dedication and talent is huge.
His feeling for the club, to bring that across at such a young age is pretty special. I love working with him and playing with him. There are things he wants to improve and that is normal in terms of development. He is an absolutely huge player for us at the moment.
Gordon's trajectory and where it could take him is an interesting one. In his press conference on Friday, he likened Gordon to Mount. A couple of years older and now an England regular, the player is a member of the Blues.
His feeling for the club: to bring that across at such a young age is something pretty special. What he's doing for us at the minute, he's an absolutely huge player for us.
What should Gordon do to move to that level in the future?
Gordon returned four goals and two assists this season, and it may be a bit of an end product, according to Lampard.
I would say that to his face and he would say it to me because he was so hungry to do well for the club. I can't ask for more because he is giving everything. He is creating opportunities for us.
Everyone who was watching the game saw the performance he put in against one of the best right-backs in the world. That little bit of end product is normal, it will come naturally with the development and the way he works.
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Gordon has been with the club since the age of 11 and Lampard is keen to harness that connection between the talented attackingMidfielder and the fans who will fill up the stands for the important game
Is this situation putting more pressure on Gordon, because he is a smart boy?
It seems to me that he knows how to take it and it is good to have players in your squad that feel that way. That is what you want. Fans are drawn to their own due to the fact that they feel like local guys that care so much and have the same feeling as the person sitting here on Sunday.
It's a great thing to transmit that on the pitch.
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It feels like what happens inside the stadium will have a big impact on the future of the team. They have two more here after Crystal Palace. They need to harness the home advantage and show determination on the pitch to ignite this fan base.
He says that they are an incredible fan base. We have to engage them, we have to play with intensity and focus, and the basics that they expect and rightly so. If they get behind us, it will be hard for people to come. It is as simple as that, we have to use that.
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It was the first time since December that the Toffees have been in the bottom half of the table. The bad run of form for the visitors began after they lost at home to the Blues.
Is being in the bottom three affecting the mindset in the camp?
It hasn't been because we understand our situation for me. It has been very close since I arrived at the club. It is hard to turn that when you are getting towards the end of the season. The reality is that we are at least two points out of the bottom of the table. We need to win games and get points to stay in the league. It adds to the focus of what you need to do.
How do you get three points against a top team?
Allan only made one successful pass and they only had 17 per cent of the possession.
While he wants an improvement on those figures, he says his team will need to strike when they do, and that they will need to bide their time without the ball.
We have to be very smart with how we approach the game because they want to draw you out with that possession.
I thought we did that pretty well, other than the last shot. I think we should have had a penalty, but we need to be clinical when we get our opportunities.
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