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The path forward in the war in Ukraine remains unclear, as what many predicted would be a swift victory for the Russian military enters its third month, with no end in sight. New footage released by Radio Free Europe reveals how even the residents of Moscow, Russia’s capital, are mixed in their outlook on President Vladimir Putin’s endgame in Ukraine.

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Americans are used to walking on scorched earth, according to one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's most loyal and powerful aides.

The kind of rhetoric used by Patrushev was reminiscent of the Soviet-era rhetoric of 1982.

At times, Patrushev seemed to borrow from the attacks conservative Americans use against what they perceive as excesses in public education. The Russian state news agency ran a column this week praising Rod Dreher of the American Conservative for his predictions.

A couple walk in front of the Kremlin's Spasskaya Tower and St. Basil's Cathedral in downtown Moscow.
A couple walk in front of the Kremlin's Spasskaya Tower and St. Basil's Cathedral in downtown Moscow. (Kirill Kudryavtsev/AFP via Getty Images)

He gave voice to the embittered views of a Kremlin inner circle that finds itself besieged by war losses and international condemnation.

Patrushev predicted that Ukrainian dreams of unity would come to an end because nationalist battalions would sow division and lead Russia into several nations.

The interview gave a view into Putin's thinking. The official line remains as ambitious and bellicose as ever, rife with historical inaccuracies, lurid nationalist fantasies and arguments intended to fragment, even as the invasion that began in late February descends into the kind of lengthy confrontation that Russia's generals promised their leader they could avoid.

Patrushev has been called the most dangerous man in Russia by a Kremlin analyst. He has been pushing for an aggressive foreign policy ever since he was told that the late U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright wanted to conquer Russia for its natural resources.

Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev delivers a speech at the 2021 Moscow Conference on International Security.
Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev delivers a speech at the 2021 Moscow Conference on International Security. (Alexander Zemlianichenko/AP)

The Albright conspiracy theory is something Putin subscribes to. Albright was laid to rest in Washington on Wednesday after he died last week.

There was a lot of conspiratorial fearmongering in Patrushev's interview. He said that the shadow market for the purchase of human organs would be revived by Ukrainian refugees, as well as demanding to remain in the countries that have them. Most of the Ukrainians who fled west to return home.

The Kremlin's invocations of Russian-Ukrainian brotherhood is at odds with the view of refugees fleeing cities ravaged by the shelling of civilian targets. Patrushev said it had been necessary to conduct a de-Nazification of Ukraine.

In 1994, Ukraine gave up part of its nuclear arsenal as part of a deal with the Soviet Union. There are reports that Hunter Biden, the president's son, and George Soros are funding bioweapons laboratories in Ukraine. The reports have been called total nonsense by the State Department.

Ukraine is not known to have chemical weapons. Russia helped the Syrian dictator hide his use of chemical weapons.

Syrian President Bashar Assad gestures during an interview with Agence France-Presse in Damascus in 2016.
Syrian President Bashar Assad gestures during an interview with Agence France-Presse in Damascus in 2016. (Joseph Eid/AFP via Getty Images)

Russian propaganda often reflects charges made against the country. In a nation where access to information is already tightly restricted, it seeks to overwhelm its audience with a relentless procession of lies.

At one point, the interviewer tried to goad Patrushev into saying that Western technology was used by Nazi Germany for the development of the gas Zyklon B, which was used to kill Jews during the Holocaust. While the former intelligence chief did not take the bait, he came close, reminding his listeners that it was on IBM's computers that the Nazis were able to plan the slaughter of people in concentration camps.

The West has been caught sleeping on a rise of fascists, most recently in Ukraine, according to the Kremlin. According to the Levada Center, more than eight of 10 Russians back Putin. Older Russians are likely to remember the pride in defeating Hitler that sustained the Soviet Union in the postwar decades.

Patrushev appeared to be appealing to these supporters during Tuesday's interview, as well as to Westerners concerned about the rise of right-wing nationalism, an all-of-the-above approach that is another hallmark of Russian propaganda. The goal is to find sympathetic Westerners wherever they can be found, from the antiwar left to the reactionary far right.

Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting in the Kremlin on April 20.
Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting in the Kremlin on April 20. (Mikhail TereshchenkoSputnik/AFP via Getty Images)

Europe is already facing the intensification of officially prohibited manifestations of fascist and neo-Nazism, and the specter of Nazism has featured especially prominently in these efforts.

The president of Ukraine is a Jew, unlike Hitler, who had claims to territorial expansion. Russia invaded Ukraine first in the year of 2014, then again earlier this year. It was Putin who helped fund Marine Le Pen's political campaigns, not Zelensky, who had family members die in the Holocaust. The Red Army was formed to defend the Soviet Union.

Few in Moscow are as knowledgeable about Putin as Patrushev, who has been with him for half a century. Patrushev is the secretary of the Security Council and wields power inside a cloistered Kremlin.

In Moscow's Shadows, the Russia analyst and host of the podcast, has described him as the director of national intelligence, the national security adviser and the chief political strategist. A single person in charge of a large portfolio is not unusual in a country that has been flirting with democracy for a decade.

The 1999 apartment bombings are believed to have been ordered by Putin as a pretext for starting the second Chechen war. The way for Putin to win Russia's presidency in 2000 was paved by early success on the battlefield. The Boris Yeltsin-era experiment with Western-style liberalism ended in favor of the authoritarian arrangements that are still in place today.

General view of an apartment block in the Pechatniki suburb, southeast of Moscow, after an explosion destroyed it in September 1999.
General view of an apartment block in the Pechatniki suburb, southeast of Moscow, after an explosion destroyed it in September 1999. (STR/AFP via Getty Images)

The official response to the bombings blamed Chechen terrorists. He was the director of the KGB successor agency, which was headed by Putin at the time. The British investigation concluded that it was almost certainly at Patrushev's direction that the dissident Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned in London with a radioactive isotope that had been slipped into his tea.

Russian politics expert Ben Noble of University College London told the BBC that Patrushev was the most conservative of the hawks.

Some of Patrushev's animosity toward the West appears to be related to the vision of a psychic from the KGB. According to a Guardian journalist, a photograph was used to penetrate Madeleine Albright's mind, where he discovered thoughts about the need to strip Russia of Siberia and the Far East.

The United States has emerged as the top Russian adversary in the past two months, a replay of the state of international affairs at the time Patrushev and Putin were young KGB officers. Both men are more comfortable operating on a Cold War footing than they are under 21st century democracy.

On Tuesday, Patrushev appeared to wade into American culture wars over critical race theory and gender identification, saying that the so-called progressive models of education had no place in the United States.

Patrushev said that in the USA, many people already say that in mathematics lessons one should sing and dance, because solving problems and equations depresses and discriminates against someone.

He said that the internet can bepoliticized and can serve as a tool for spreading misinformation.

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