You seem to be picking parts that will make you feel like an outsider. Maybe that is too tidy.

When someone applies choice to my experience, it's funny. You can say no to things, but you can't say no to people. It didn't feel like stopping and thinking about what the characters were. The door was opened and the person stepped through it.

The Last of Us wasn't particularly tempting.

It wanted to work with Craig, who did Chernobyl. I was a huge fan of the content on the cable channel. I was able to experience their programming. The programming they created was very mature.

You mean after 11 pm original programming?

It's absolutely true. It's pretty crazy that I saw all of it.

Did your parents not pay attention?

There is a variety of immigrant experiences in the US, but it tends to be very strict and open in other ways. My parents wouldn't send me out of the room if they liked what they saw. I had to get good grades or I wouldn't be able to watch shit.

Do what you want and get good grades.

They didn't take TV seriously because they didn't think it was important. I dreamed about being a part of something important to the network.

How did you prepare for The Last of us? Were you in the game?

I didn't know about the game. They told us not to play the game. I didn't pay much attention to them. I was terrible at the game. My nephew was really good. I wanted to play notes that were related to the original game.

Is the role personal to you?

Externalizing internal darkness in a safe way and bringing in things from your nightmares is the fun part.

That's such as?

Being good at violence and being good at it are two things thatJoel has. I didn't like fighting as an adult. I'm scared of violence a lot. Do you think the fear of violence is a thing? Are you afraid of your own violence?

Maybe the fear that you will like it.

It's absolutely true. I like to chase things that are thrill-seeking. I don't test my limits often. I don't like it a lot. I don't enjoy pain.

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