As a Joint Session of Congress met to certify the election results, a few of Donald Trump's aides heard that he might be walking down Pennsylvania Avenue with his supporters.

It was not realistic for Trump to walk that far according to the former White House deputy press secretary.

I have never seen a man without a golf cart. Deere told the January 6 committee that he couldn't imagine him walking up Pennsylvania Avenue.

The transcripts of additional interviews were made public on Tuesday.

Deere told the committee that he had joked about the possibility of Trump going to the Capitol with two other White House aides.

Deere said it was a joke. He said this today. You will not believe what he says today.

It was never serious that he was going to go to the Capitol, he told investigators.

Deere told Tony Ornato, the White House's deputy chief of staff, that Trump wouldn't be going to the Capitol the next day.

Deere didn't think that was the case even after Trump suggested during his speech on the Ellipse that he would join the crowd of his supporters as they marched to the Capitol.

Deere told investigators that he was confident that they were not doing any more movement. If the deputy chief of staff for operations told me we weren't doing an additional movement, we weren't doing an additional movement.

During the January 6 committee hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson said that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel of the SUV when he was told he couldn't go. In its preliminary final report, the committee said it had confirmed from other sources that a "furious interaction" had occurred.

Many White House officials were unaware of Trump's plan according to Deere.

Deere said he couldn't remember who he had heard about it. He wanted to make the movement when he came off the stage and when he returned to the White House.

Deere told the committee that he encouraged Trump to concede after the Electoral College voted on December 14th and that he drafted a resignation letter on January 6th.

He said that January 6th was a sad and frustrating day, and that he wondered if staff had failed him.

He said that maybe he should have pushed harder.

Deere wouldn't say anything.