The congressman interrupted the deposition.
Tarrio was asked why he used to call her a slur.
Tarrio's deposition transcript has a lot of strange moments.
The transcript from the ex-Proud Boys leader's deposition shows that Rep. Lofgren had one question for him.
The California Democrat asked if you called me a "C-word" on your Telegram channel.
A newly released transcript of Tarrio's grilling in the spring before the House committee contains several bizarre moments, including a brief exchange between Tarrio and Lofgren.
Tarrio is on trial at the US District Court in Washington, DC, defending himself against charges stemming from the attack. In the first week of January, opening statements and testimony are anticipated.
The transcript shows a hint of Tarrio's defense.
The Southern Poverty Law Center and the FBI define the Proud Boys as a hate group, and it shows him how he portrayed them.
Tarrio testified that he couldn't tell the committee how many members rose to the highest ranks through good works.
There was no insurrection by the Proud Boys. They don't do that. At one point during the deposition, Tarrio's lawyer said that they were a satirical kind of goofy group of people.
Jon Lewis is a research fellow at the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.
Lewis said, "You couldn't have seen what we did on January 6 because we are a good organization, just a bunch of guys who like to get together and drink beer."
The five defendants and over 200 members who showed up that day were brutalized by the attackers, according to federal prosecutors.
Dominic "Spaz" Pezzola is accused of breaking a window with a riot shield stolen from a Capitol Police officer.
The feds say Pezzola bragged that he would have killed Vice President Mike Pence.
According to Emily Kaufman, a researcher with the Anti-Defamation League, there are 160 known chapters of the extremists.
She said that they were active during the summer's Pride Month and have protested at the Drag Queen Story Hours at schools and libraries.
Kaufman said that they expected the Proud Boys to be decimated by the arrests. They've found a niche.
Lofgren is a vocal member of the January 6 committee.
A lawyer for the committee says that Lofgren has appeared on video. Do you have a question?
The congresswoman said she had a question.
She said "Mr. Tarrio." I received a copy of a post from you, and it's called 'Enrique's House of Propaganda'.
Lewis said that the House of Propaganda had been taken down.
The picture of me holding a piece of paper at a microphone in the Judiciary Committee is blind in one eye.
She asked what you meant by that.
Tarrio wanted to know how to pronounce his name. I apologize.
The congresswoman said Lofgren.
Tarrio said "Lofgren". I would love to have that in front of me.
He said he would take a look at it and return to the committee.
He wasn't sure if he wrote the post.
He said there were multiple people that ran Telegram channels.
Lofgren agreed. I return the favor.
She appeared to click out of the deposition. The lawyer circled back.
The lawyer asked if you called her a slur.
Tarrio didn't reply. I don't recall.
The lawyer asked if someone used your account to call Ms. Lofgren.
I said this before. Many people administer that account.
The lawyer for Tarrio cut in.
He wanted to know what the significance was of being called that word.
Since 1300s in London, that's been a word. It isn't a nice word for a lot of people.
Tarrio's client cut him off, asking if he knew the history of the word.
The lawyer said that he did.
Both Tarrio and his lawyer complained about the lack ofcontext in Lofgren's inquiry into the word's use by someone.
The lawyer wanted to know if the context mattered.
Tarrio's lawyer dismissed Telegram as a "really nasty Irish bar scene."
Tarrio told the committee there was nothing wrong with Donald Trump saying "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by" when asked what he wanted to tell white-supremacist groups.
Tarrio suggested that Trump encouraged the Proud Boys to prepare for the election by taking non violent actions.
Tarrio said he took it to be the election. Don't back down.
I believe that he meant to say "stand by me as the president."
The extremists saw "stand back and stand by" as a call to arms, according to Lewis. A member of Proud Boy testified that membership tripled after Trump made the remark.
They didn't think this was a shout out on TV. Lewis said that they should make sure to vote.
Tarrio pleaded the Fifth more than a dozen times and was captured in the transcript alternating between his pleas.
He said that he wasn't a big fan of Obama because of socialized health care and that he didn't give us more wars.
Tarrio said that January 6th should have never happened.
I would love to be able to stand in front of the police line and speak to the people in front of it.
Tarrio told the committee that he still considers himself a Proud Boy. "I'm not able to."
There is a different story told by federal prosecutors. Tarrio told them to make no mistake. Pezzola is accused of breaking the first Capitol window on January 6th.
Tarrio chatted two hours later when his lieutenants asked him what to do.
Tarrio's deposition took place three days after he was released from jail for burning the Black Lives Matter banner. He was arrested in March in relation to the Capitol attack.
The Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was convicted of seditious-conspiracy in November and the Proud Boys seditious-conspiracy trial is expected to take about six weeks.
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