Donald Trump favored a group of lawyers who brought in conspiracy theories as he tried to overturn the election, according to Mike Pence.

In an interview with Chuck Todd, the former vice president talked about the events leading up to the Capitol insurrection.

The President of the United States received counsel from attorneys who were telling him what he wanted to hear. In mid-November, he dismissed some of the extraordinary and capable attorneys that were serving in the White House and serving in the campaign and replaced them with a bunch of lawyers who brought in conspiracy theories.

He talked about the insurrection in his book, "So Help Me God," which was recently published.

One of those lawyers, Sidney Powell, said in a court filing that no reasonable person would have assumed that what they were saying was true. She tells us now. The President was getting terrible advice from people who shouldn't have been in the Oval Office.

Donald Trump and Sidney Powell
Former President Donald Trump's team distanced itself from Sidney Powell in November 2020.
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Rudy Giuliani said over the phone that his lawyers were not telling him that lawsuits filed to challenge election results in different states were likely to fail.

"There was a lot of heated discussion," he said. There was screaming.

He wouldn't say if Trump had committed a crime.

"I don't know if it's a crime to listen to bad advice from lawyers," said Pence, who noted earlier in the interview that if he had obeyed Trump, he would have violated his oath to the constitution.

He dodged questions about Trump's fitness for office after the former president said he would seek reelection in four years.