Brian Eno on Why He Wrote a Climate Album With Deepfake Birdsongs

The transition from "Garden of Stars" to "Inclusion" was one of the highlights of the album. I thought of the fire lily after seeing it.

Something good may come out of that dialog. The line "the whole of it in gorgeous flames" is an attempt to say that the destruction is part of the process. There is always a change in nature. We won't be part of the picture, that's what we're worried about

Is it possible to mix innovation and preservation.

You would like to play between those two. The world can't be fixed in aspic. Some of the new species will look after themselves according to my friend who is a farmer.

Fix it is a techno-utopianism.

We all believed that technology would create the future and that politics was unimportant. It is related to the idea that the power of will is the most powerful power on the planet. I want to tell her that it's not true.

Do we need a shared climate culture if community is the way to go?

The biggest social movement in history is happening right now. Billions of people are involved in environmental care, but the media doesn't pay much attention. Creative intelligence is what makes me hopeful. Everything was forever, until it was no more is a book that I mention a lot.

The album title is yours.

I agree. It is about the end of the soviet union. Everyone was communist one day and not the other. It's an example of how quickly things can change. The idea of revolutions happening in two stages came from this book. Everyone is in the first stage when they realize something isn't right. We have been there for a while with the exception of a few holdouts. Everyone knows that everyone else is aware of it. I think we're going towards that moment. It becomes a solid when it becomes a liquid. It has become a phase change. Climate change will be the main issue for politicians within three years.

How do you not make a climate change album boring?

Propaganda isn't very effective. Testing where we are is what art is mostly doing. The beginning of thinking begins with feelings. There are other realities that the artist is talking about. It has its own terms and values.

Are you still watching the show?

Most people don't know what the acronym stands for. Millions of people are involved in an underground movement. It's a good example of the climate change movement. I touch on it in a few of the records, but it is not a statement of intent. The answer to attention has always been loud. There is nothing going on, and it lasts a long time. That is what I have been doing for a long time.

It hints at a change in the world, I think. Another person is Marie Kondo. At a general level, the lesson of minimalists has begun to penetrate. The message is anti- capitalist. If it requires all that stuff, what is your life about? This is how people make changes. They start to live a bit differently even though they don't know what the word is.

Are these signals related to the phase change?

Yes, that is correct. Everyone is ready when the Soviet Union goes away. Everyone had been doing everything they could to keep life going in the stagnant era. They just carried on when the system stopped working. There wasn't a lot of commotion.