There was a serious incident at JFK in April. The plane that was involved was scrapped. The final report of the investigators has been released and it is pretty damning for the captain. The transcript of what the pilots were talking to each other is shocking. The basics of the accident should be covered first. American Airlines operated flight AA300 from New York to Los Angeles. One of American's "A321T" aircraft had just 102 seats and was in a fancy three cabin configuration. There were 101 passengers and eight crew on the plane. The left wing of the plane hit something as it rolled to the left while taking off. The pilots were worried that the plane would flip over when the plane banked to the left. The pilots decided to return to the airport as the plane passed through 20,000 feet. The audio between the pilots and air traffic controllers is standard, and not as interesting as the transcript that has been released from the cockpit, which I will cover below. The left wing of the plane was damaged in some way. The left wingtip was six inches higher than the right wingtip, according to an examination. The plane was scrapped and used for other purposes. That shows you how serious this incident was. TheNTSB released its final report about the incident. There was probable cause of the incident determined by investigators. The plane had a crosswind and the captain used the rudder too much. “The captain’s excessive left rudder pedal input during the takeoff ground roll, which caused a large heading deviation and a left roll upon rotation that resulted in the left wingtip striking the ground.” The first officer feared that the plane was going to roll over after it banked to the left. The first officer applied a right aileron and back pressure after the captain said he couldn't control it. One wonders how this would end without that. The crosswind wasn't bad. The company has a 35-knot crosswind limit. There were no problems with the plane. There are strange parallels between this flight and another. The American Airlines flight AA587 that crashed in November 2001 was an A300. The plane that took off from the same runway was operated by the same company as the one that flew AA300. The pilot's excessive use of rudder caused the crash. Rarely do we hear what pilots are talking about. Cockpit voice recorders only record for a short time. They only listen after a serious incident. The transcript from this flight has been released and it could make some people uneasy about flying. The pilots in the flight deck were very experienced. This was a crew that had been together for a long time between the captain and first officer. It's just about all you could hope for with over 35,000 hours of flying. When there is a "#" in the transcript, that means there was an expletive used. The conversation was right after the plane took off. First officer: “Your airplane, your airplane, your airplane. I don’t know what’s goin’ on.”Captain: “What the # (happened)?”First officer: “I don’t know. Ah the engines all go, good.”Captain: “The # ju- it just # rolled on me.”First officer: “What the # is that? Are we continuing? #. These girls will never fly withus again. I thought we were gone.”First officer: “That scared the # outta me, I thought we were gone.” Captain: “The # airplane just rolled on me dude.”American Airlines plane’s terrifying takeoff from JFK
Pilot error blamed for American Airlines incident
American Airlines cockpit transcript is shocking
One of the first things they say is that the flight attendants will never fly with them again.
The pilots had a conversation about the plane.
First officer: “# airplane, I swear to @.”Captain: “# hate flyin’ this thing with any kinda crosswind. # me I’m gonna take some time off after that #.”First officer: “Tell me about it.”
Captain: “Holy # I’m not workin’ tomorrow.”
If a captain with nearly 20,000 hours hates flying the plane when there is a crosswind, it is a concern.
The flight attendant talked to the cockpit.
Flight attendant: “What was that? That was so scary?”Captain: “I know, I think we, we, we think we our, our rudder got jammed. We’re testing it out right now, we’re just lookin’ at all the flight controls. And ah, right now she seems to be operating pretty smoothly, so.”Flight attendant: “Okay. Thank you I’m glad you’re experienced.”Captain: “Yeah well, you know what? We, we, we’re just having a conversation about that. # Airbus man. this is the kinda # we don’t like about it. You know there’s so many computers we don’t, we don’t know what it # does sometimes.”Flight attendant: “Okay.”Captain: “That was a ah full left rudder on the, on the runway to keep it on the runway and then ah the one- the once we got airborne she just went # tits up.”
Flight attendant: “Okay just keep us abreast. Good job.”
The plane has so many computers that the captain doesn't know how to use them.
The most telling part of the series is this interaction.
Captain: “You ever notice on this airplane you go, you go full controls sometimes it doesn’t react, it doesn’t do anything?
First officer: “No, I don’t go full controls that often, so.”
The captain made a habit of going "full controls" too much, which is what caused this incident. For a moderate crosswind, you shouldn't go full controls.
The pilots were trying to decide if they should return to JFK or keep going. They are not motivated to return out of an abundance of caution but because of politics.
First officer: “Yeah I mean I’m just thinkin’ with that kind of an extreme maneuver, you know just, for the politics of it all. It might not be a bad idea go back, because, these girls will never fly with us again I’m tellin’ ya. and the, I mean that scared me that bad, that I’ve never been so scared in an airplane I don’t think I thought. I mean I wasn’t that scared because like, but I thought it was over. I thought we were goin down.”Captain: “But yeah the passengers are probably all wondering and then people could ah monday morning quarterback you on continuing, with I’m just sayin’ that, I’m just putting that out there. I mean, I feel safe you know yeah let’s go, but you I’m just saying, I just wanted.”First officer: “Or maybe call maintenance to cover your #. And tell ’em what happened and see what they- or just ah I don’t know yeah.”Captain: “You know, I think you’re right.”
First officer: “I think you gotta cover your # on this one.”
The decision was made to go back to JFK. The captain lied about the faulty system. The transcript is here.
Captain: “Ladies and gentlemen this is the captain speaking if I can have your attention please, ah we’ve got an issue with the airplane involving our ah flight control computers and ah we are ah made the decision to return to ah JFK airport and land the airplane and ah let the maintenance folks ah take it over. Should be ah touching down in Kennedy in about fifteen minutes or so, no cause for alarm the aircraft has been ah secured with the faulty system isolated and ah she’s handling very nicely at this point but ah no sense in ah continuing on to LA ah with with an aircraft ah in this particular condition so we’re gonna just for safety’ ah purposes ah return to JFK and land. And ahm once we get on the ground safely back at the gate we’ll start working the issue of getting a new airplane or ah figuring out how to get you all on your way. Appreciate your patience as ah we keep the operation as safe as ah as possible. Thanks again, again landing in about fifteen minutes.”
Over the past three years, we have had a final report on what happened during a departure from JFK in April of 2019.
The captain used his left rudder too much during takeoff. The captain asked the first officer if he had the same issue with applying full controls that he had with using too much rudder.
It is quite shocking to hear a captain with nearly 20,000 hours of flying time say that he hates flying the plane if there is a crosswind.
The first officer was more competent than the others. He said that he didn't have experience with going "full controls" because that's not something you're supposed to do with a moderate cross wind.
It seems that this incident could have ended in a different way. I am not the only one wondering if it is normal for pilots with 20,000 hours to act like this.
What do you think of this event? Is anyone aware of what happened to the pilots after the final report has been released?
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