Technologists have been talking about the metaverse for a long time, and here at WIRED we wrote about it a lot. We don't know how to define the next generation of the internet, which is contingent on 3D experiences and a persistent, continuous federated identity. Was it still confusing? Matthew Ball, a strategist, venture capitalist, and author, talks about his new book The Metaverse: And How It Will Revolutionize Everything, on this week's Gadget Lab.

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We want to know how Ball defines the metaverse, whether the metaverse should be regulated, and what a realistic vision of interoperability might be.

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Matthew Ball wrote The Metaverse: And How it will Revolutionize everything. The June cover story is about Web3 You can follow all of WIRED's coverage here.

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Matthew is a fan of The Old Man and the US Supreme CourtStrict Scrutiny. Try out an electric car for a bit. Lauren is a big fan of the Supreme Court and the 5-4Podcast.

Matthew Ball can be reached on social media. There is a person named Gilad EDelman. LaurenGoode is the name of the person. The person is Michael Calore. The main hotline should be blinged out. The show is produced by a man. Solar Keys is our theme song.

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