The second public hearing detailing the probe's initial findings put former President Donald Trump's claims of election fraud front and center.
The narrowly focused hearing sought to establish that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden but still worked to convince swaths of the public that the race had been stolen from him.
Former Attorney General William Barr testified to the committee about his conversations with Trump and those close to him. Several witnesses told Trump that his claims of fraud were not true. Chris Stirewalt, a former Fox News political editor, was one of the people who testified in person.
The second hearing yielded some important information.
Former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr is seen on video during his deposition for the public hearing of the U.S. House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., June 9, 2022. REUTERS/Jonathan ErnstThe committee made a case that Trump had been told there was no evidence for the claims of fraud that he was peddling.
The former head of the Department of Justice slammed the election-fraud conspiracy theories in his interviews with the committee. He testified that he spoke to the president in a loud voice.
In one of the clips, Barr told Trump that the DOJ was not an extension of his legal team and could not be used to take sides in elections.
Barr said that if it was specific, credible, and could have affected the election, they would look at it.
The former head of the DOJ told Trump that the stuff his people were shoveling out to the public was not real. The claims of fraud were false. He was angry about that.
Barr said that the claims on the voting machines were idiotic.
The claims that the voting machines were rigged to flip votes to Biden were disturbing. Even though they were completely nonsense, they were influencing a lot of people.
He said that they were wasting their time on that and it was doing a disservice to the country.
According to Barr, Trump gave him a copy of the report. It looked very amateurish to me that Trump said he would get a second term.
If he really believes this stuff, he has lost touch with reality, so I was demoralized.
There was never an indication of interest in what the actual facts were when Barr told Trump how crazy some of these claims were.
Former Trump campaign Lawyer Rudy Giuliani, is displayed on a screen during a hearing by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol on June 13, 2022 in Washington, DC.When Rudy Giuliani said at the White House that Trump should simply declare victory on Election Night 2020, ex-Trump campaign aide Jason Miller said that he was drunk.
Miller said that Giuliani was drunk when he and other people gathered at the White House to listen to what Giuliani wanted to say.
Miller said he did not know the mayor's intoxication when he spoke with the president.
Miller believes it was Mayor Giuliani who suggested to go and declare victory. Miller told the investigators that anyone who didn't agree with Giuliani's position was being weak.
In the early hours of November 4, 2020, Trump made a false claim that he had won the election.
A spokesman for Giuliani denied that the former Trump lawyer was drunk on election night.
Campaign manager Bill Stepien stands alongside US President Donald Trump as he speaks with reporters aboard Air Force One as he flies from Manchester, New Hampshire to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland, August 28, 2020, following a campaign rally.Stepien was subpoenaed for Monday's hearing. The select committee was delayed by 45 minutes after his wife went into labor and prevented him from testifying.
Video and audio clips from Stepien's interviews with investigators were played by the committee.
Stepien told the committee that he thought it was too early for Trump to claim victory since ballots were still being counted.
Trump should say the race is too early to call, but that they are proud of the campaign, according to Stepien. Stepien said that Trump didn't agree with that message.
He said that he thought he was incorrect.
Video featuring Eric Hershman, White House lawyer under former President Donald Trump, is played during a hearing by the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol in the Cannon House Office Building on June 13, 2022 in Washington, DC.There was no evidence of fraud in the 2020 election that could have changed the outcome of the race, according to testimony from ex-Trump officials.
If the fraud aggregated and read most favorably to the campaign, it would be outcome determinative. Everyone in the room thought that it wasn't enough to be outcome-determinative.
Eric Herschman, a former White House lawyer, said he didn't see any evidence to support the allegations.
In a later clip, Herschman said that he thought the fraud conspiracy claims being put forward by Giuliani and Powell were crazy.
The former Trump campaign lawyer said he talked to the White House advisor about voter fraud and voting machines.
Cannon said that he told the man that he didn't believe the allegations because he thought the hand recount in Georgia would solve the technology problem.
I believe Mr. Navarro was accusing me of being an agent of the deep state. Cannon didn't take another call from Mr. Navarro.
The vice chair of the committee said in the hearing that all of Trump's advisers told him the same thing.
Richard Donoghue said that he tried to tell Trump that the major allegations were not supported by the evidence.
Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada are some of the places we have looked at. We're doing what we're paid to do. Donoghue said that a lot of the information you are receiving is false. When Donoghue went into detail to debunk one fraud claim, Trump asked what about the others.
When you gave him a direct answer on one of the allegations, he wouldn't fight you on it, but he would move on to another allegation.
Statistics showing how many lawsuits Trump's legal team and his allies filed in court were displayed by the committee.
Between Election Day 2020 and the day of the Capitol riot, 62 lawsuits were filed challenging results in nine states and Washington, D.C. Sixty-one of those cases were lost by Trump.
The judges who oversaw those cases were appointed by Republican presidents. The judges were appointed by Trump.
There will be five more public hearings in June. The panel said in the first hearing that Trump was at the center of a conspiracy to change the outcome of the election.
The next hearings will look at President Trump's plan to corrupt the Department of Justice and his plan to pressure the vice president to overturn the election, according to Cheney.