Former White House counselor Kellyanne Conway would put money down on Donald Trump having another chance at the White House.

In a phone interview with Insider on Wednesday, she said the odds were that he would run.

For nearly all of Trump's time in office, Conway served in the White House. She was one of his most trusted advisors.

In an interview with Insider, she said that Trump would like to run for president for two reasons.

He knows that he positively transformed this country and that he is distraught by what is happening to the country.

Trump frequently hints at running for president again. It is an open question as to whether he will run given his political baggage that includes being twice impeached, accusations of inciting the US Capitol attack, and facing grave legal jeopardy in multiple countries.

Many Republicans have conceded that Trump would win the election if he ran.

The leader of the America First movement will be President Trump if he runs again.

Dozens of Republican candidates are expected to enter the race if Trump does not run. If President Joe Biden quits, there will be even more candidates. Biden has said he is going to run again, but his age and falling approval rating are sowing doubt among Washington insiders.

She said to watch the GOP primaries in the future.

The Pennsylvania US Senate primary currently facing a recount is an example of how Republican candidates are trying to copy Trump even if they don't have his endorsement. The candidates running for the seat all supported Trump.

If President Trump doesn't run in 2024, there will be a fight within the Republican Party for the mantle of America First, and their ability to reconstruct the Trump policy agenda in a way that is satisfying to Americans.

She didn't name any specific candidates she thought might win, saying the person would likely be all the obvious folks you would write about anyway.

Those making predictions should pay attention to what the most passionate voters are saying. She wrote in her book that Trump built a movement and that the lessons from MAGA are important.

She told Insider that donors are often wrong. We have seen this many times. I would look at who the grassroots want in a non-Trump presidential primary.

She said that they would have to hear from President Trump as well.