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President Donald Trump said Thursday he opposes funding for the U.S. Postal Service and election security grants in an effort to stymie mail-in voting for the upcoming presidential election.

Democrats “want 3 and a half billion dollars for something that will turn out to be fraudulent, that’s election money, basically. They want three and a half billion dollars for the mail-in votes, okay, universal mail-in ballots,” Trump told Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo, in response to a question on talks on the next coronavirus relief package. “They want 25 billion dollars – billion – for the Post Office.”

“Now they need that money in order to have the Post Office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” he continued. “By the way, those are just two items, but if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”